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« on: March 19, 2007, 12:45:16 am »
I see mention of the Ed McCulloch Plymouth Arrow on another site, something about Harlan Fagen and Home Shield sponsorship.

EBay?

Anyhow, Billy Dee might know about it, but just to point out, the Super Shops hired him to drive their car, he was a "hired gun" and I don't understand what that Home Shield car would have to do with the Super Shops car.

I think the time table is like this, he ran it before he was hired to drive S/S car, it should have no linkage.

Bernie Leris and Mike Kloeber were also employees, as was Dee Gant to a short time.

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« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2007, 12:55:51 am »
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 Im not saying it was the same car(s)..  Just that they were all Arrows...that ebay add last week mentioned the Pro Paint and Home Shield car..
then a flood of Super Shops cars  pics and questions arrived shortly afterwoods..that is all I was pointing out since Dave Hough was on there to explain all the details...and he did an excellent job at that.
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« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2007, 12:59:04 am »
OK, I was wondering.

How about some Ace trivia, like when he was asking about and got  a ride with Larry Minor's Hemet-based team, when Gary Beck was the T/F driver, Miller Beer came on-board as did Oldsmobile.

The very first car he drove on that deal was a "Lite" Camaro painted up as an "Oldsmobile" b/c the real Olds body wasn't ready yet.

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« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2007, 01:40:36 am »
the real Olds body is in Justin Grant's neighbors pool!!!':p'
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« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2007, 06:36:52 am »
Isn't it the case that Ace had his own Revellution Arrow.  Then he picked up the Super Shops deal which was a whole different car.  Then, when that finished, he would have gone back to the Arrow in Pro Paint colours, followed by the Home Shield sponsorship.  

I can't recall the timeline of then the Miller Lite deal started.  I recall the hybrid Camaro/Olds and it was quite a pretty car.  Unlike the 'proper' slab sided Olds which was one of the more hideous bodies to cloak a chassis and the pool could well be the best place for it.

Of course, give it a few more years and we'll all be going misty eyed at the thought of an eighties Olds, nostalgia being what it is.
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« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2007, 09:07:20 am »
The first Miller Olds was or were the Firenza's. Like Billy said, I had it, and then it ended up in the pool!

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« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2007, 10:18:33 am »
Another of those Miller Olds bodies was hanging in rafters in Blaine Kilby's Kilby Chassis Design/KCD shop about twenty miles from here in Johnson City as late as a couple of years ago (He built Randy Moore's Lambo Asti Spumante pro mod years ago). http://www.competitionplus.com/12_17_2003/promods_revisited.html

He was storing it for former alcohol funny racer Jerry Gulley. It was being offered for $750 at the time, but I haven't heard anything since. Jerry's in the business of selling metal working equipment (such as to chopper shops) and can often be found set up at nostalgia races and swap meets. If anyone's interested let me know and I'll see if he's still got it. Just hope it's someone who wouldn't use it, cause it looks like you took it off the car yesterday.

Here's a little trivia question for ya. What funny car driver also had Asti Spumante sponsorship? (cuz I just learned this one last year, myself)
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« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2007, 11:44:54 am »
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« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2007, 12:53:33 pm »
Quote (Nitrohaulic @ Mar. 19 2007,09:18)
He was storing it for former alcohol funny racer Jerry Gulley. It was being offered for $750 at the time, but I haven't heard anything since. Jerry's in the business of selling metal working equipment (such as to chopper shops) and can often be found set up at nostalgia races and swap meets. If anyone's interested let me know and I'll see if he's still got it. Just hope it's someone who wouldn't use it, cause it looks like you took it off the car yesterday.

This was the body I got. Jerry lives in Kingsport TN, and I drove down to get it. I brought it back to Clarksville IN, and was mounting it on my chassis when a freak storm blew in while I was eating with my family and the wind took the body and lifted it off the jig and tossed it 30 feet into the neighbors pool.

It was a carbon fiber Olds Firenza, and it was the show car body, never raced.

The body was broken in three spots and I put it back together, but opted to go with a Donnie Reeves 71 Mustang body and the Olds body is in a barn in Clarksville, IN.

This is what it looked like when I got it from Jerry


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« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2007, 01:55:56 pm »
Cool to see the Miller car, it all started with "Lite" beer and later went to parent "Miller", Gold then Red?

The Ace Arrow sitch, I'd have to look up all the years, but when S/S killed the F/C program, it was already 1981 I believe, or 1980. And by then the Arrow was pretty much "old" in looks and being "cool." I know the Omni came in during that time frame, but I don't remeber the Ace ever running one.

Time for an ACE TRIVIA TIME TABLE!!!!


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« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2007, 02:18:12 pm »
The Red and White were before the Gold. The gold was never run as a Firenza. The Gold was for the Olds Achieva, and this Firenza was painted as a Show Car as they did not have enough bodies to paint gold. The Firenza was raced as the Red and White and the "Red, White, and Blue" "All Stars" Miller Car.

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« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2007, 02:41:14 pm »
I'll have to post photos later but,
the last RRrrevellution cars were run in 1977.
The last one was an Arrow late in the season.
For 1978 he had the American Shield Insurance
sponsorship and the car was a boring white.
In 1979 he racedd the arrow in the Carter Pro Paints colors.
Beuatiful car. Rarely raced and then sold.
In 1980 he raced the Super Shops Arrow and beat
Tom Ridings in the Final at the US Nationals.

Can't remember what he raced, if at all during '81 thru '83?

In 1984 he then got the gig with Larry Minor and the Miller Lite Sponorship. Started with the Camaro/painted like a Firenza to start the season. Ran the Blue and White Lite Firenza's through '85.
In 1986 through '87 they had the Red and White Miller American Firenza's. I loved this design.
In 1988 they swithed to the Cutlass bodies and ran the hideuos
looking Miller Gold colors (Actually the colors weren't that bad but,
the design sucked!) I believe the Miller sponsorship came to a close after the 1989 season. When they got the McDonalds sponsorship,
They forced him into a Top Fueler to make room for Cruz Pedragon to run the Funny Car. Ace in a fueler was just not right.

I believe that would be the correct Ace timeline after the Revellution cars.

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« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2007, 02:59:42 pm »
'<img'> that sounds right Dave knowing that the frontdrive cutlass was an 88 model... previous they were a 78-87 reardrive g car
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« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2007, 03:56:08 pm »
Quote (Gredzo @ Mar. 19 2007,05:36)
Isn't it the case that Ace had his own Revellution Arrow.  Then he picked up the Super Shops deal which was a whole different car.  Then, when that finished, he would have gone back to the Arrow in Pro Paint colours, followed by the Home Shield sponsorship.  

I can't recall the timeline of then the Miller Lite deal started.  I recall the hybrid Camaro/Olds and it was quite a pretty car.  Unlike the 'proper' slab sided Olds which was one of the more hideous bodies to cloak a chassis and the pool could well be the best place for it.

Of course, give it a few more years and we'll all be going misty eyed at the thought of an eighties Olds, nostalgia being what it is.

To clarify, he didn't "pick up the Super Shops deal" like a regular sponsorship, Super Shops owned the cars, the truck, the trailer, the engines, the tools, the everything, they fired Pat Foster and replaced him with Ace.

He worked for Harry Eberlin, he was never "sponsored" by Super Shops.


What a great driver, and wrench. He and Bernie had some terrible luck on the way to Seattle after winning the biggest event of the year, Indy. I think they were third in points when the whole plug got pulled.

Ed Pink "house" car too.

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« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2007, 05:49:24 pm »
I believe the first deal he had with Minor was the Otter-Pops car wasn't it?
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