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Offline Rockin' Robin

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« Reply #90 on: November 07, 2007, 01:56:35 am »
James, in  reading your last couple of post it is evident that theses post are no different from your first.  Even when you make an attempt to be nice you are still 100% CONDESCENDING.

What is it that possesses you to be so patronizing towards others here?

Next time you are at one of the reunions will you please address Tom Hanna about his cackle car that did not exist in '68.  I'm sure you will be met with a warm reception since your opinion is held in such high regard.  Maxwell who?

Has a few articles published and now he knows it all!

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Also, why did you send me a PM about some invite to Cali?  Are you going to come help us with a tune up at one of the reunions or March Meet ... lol?  If nothing else, you can help me with some tricks on the camera for those times I may be close to a nitro car with NHRA's blessing.

Nevermind ... don't need it.


Hey, I even had some parts on this car.  Ha, the idler pulley was one of those Blue Max parts as well.


Shot this, painted the car, and crewed on it.  Fun while it lasted!  Jimmy's last pass.


Dad signing autographs at the 50th celebration at Indy.


Car won B/SR class at the '57 Nationals in OKC.  Hope the resto meets your approval.  Yeah, it is overdone.




'70 Springnationals winner.  I was just a little guy sitting in the cab next to Bones.

Point here?  Myself, as well as most others here don't need a history lesson from some wannabe keyboard jockeys that never set foot on one of these tracks from back in the day.  Who's to say what was being raced where on any given weekend at anywhere USA.

Funny cars?  Funny cars existed before NHRA would recognize them.  NHRA didn't want them.  In the Dallas-Fort Worth area we had Green Valley, AHRA, and funny cars too.  NHRA was mostly a West Coast thing with some points races within different divisions, and a few national events scattered about.

So, if NHRA is the proveyer of all things good drag racing, then this whole thread is BS because funny cars didn't exist at all until what, '69.

That's my soapbox!

James, keep your patronizing remarks to yourself.  Now, if you could just start showing a little more respect in here; maybe, just maybe ....
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« Reply #91 on: November 07, 2007, 02:51:37 am »
Robin, I was totally ready to let this one go, move on. But, you put some great stuff up, not sure where you're going but look me up when you come west. FWIW, you read my posts and get 2+2 = 7, not sure why. All this started with (1975 era) Brad Lackey post, you don't know it but it wasn't till after that post that I even saw your mention of you buying a "1995" KX. As I already said, I did NOT see your post.

Nice dragsters --- lots of history there. Love the rod and the reference photo. The thread was about the 'Cuda and 1968, I thought it was all over but these are cool pics. It's a big world, you've never heard of me, likewise. But what does it matter?  

Familiar with the Rich Hammons / Williamson HAIRY CANNARY Valiant car, Doug Thorley and his wife and I had spent hours talking about early floppers, that 1967 NHRA Indy Nats where he won (Corvair) so you and I are on same page about 1969 being first NHRA year they recognized the class, starting with Claire Sanders winning WNats in JJ Nova. I did a bit of promotional work for Doug in terms of some editorial stuff 10+/- years ago, got brought up to date on early flopper history from him, he build a lot of headers on the early cars as I'm sure you know.

Condescending? Works both ways. Ming was right there at the start with the history lesson, sure I responded. Larry REYES drove the KING FISH early Barracuda, "Super Cuda" as he is known and I spend time within the last year at his sister's home, I interviewed him, he told me details of his career starting out with him being a MILK MAN and hot rodding through the orange groves of southern Cali. I heard all about King Fish from the man himself. Ming can contact him in Memphis if he pleases.  

It's on tape for future projects, his early F/C career right up to and including the accident. Watch the newsstands if you care about it, you'll see one of the first "reports," on-sale right about NOW.

You talk about "West Coast" cars, well I've got hours of tape with Norm Kraus, Chicago, wrote numerous pieces with and about him, lots of vintage press race pics and dealer shots as well. Did the "Year One" photography that they ran as an advertising campaign for a year or longer about the (then) recently discovered "Super Charger" (purchased from Lenny) that Gary Dyer drive in '69. All this long before Logghe Bros. bought the car to restore, which has yet to happen.

It's a big world out there. Not new at this, I've been making a living at media work (independent) since about 1984, nearly all automotive but some Moto-Cross and SCORE off-road work as well.

Sorry I so offended you in this thread, if I did. Any work I've done is fully documented, fully researched. I take pride in getting the facts/details straight, history can not be twisted and tweaked and re-done, no matter who's car or who's friend or who's name is painted on.

I stand by what I said in this thread, the pictured '68 Blown Nitro Cuda is, in my opinion, a cool car, I stated that more than once, I don't consider it a representation of where the Funny Car scene was at in 1968 however. If you do, then we can agree to disagree.

You talk about "history lesson" in your post, take away the names and the faces and the friendships and the personal feelings, good or bad, you're saying there's no reason to focus on history?

This internet is not just about you or I or Ming or Mob, there's a high percentage (let's take Barrett-Jackson type muscle cars for an example) of mis-information out there and flat-out fraud going on, I think a bit of a "history lesson" is and should be welcome. Lesson one, and I'm sure you'll agree, "Don't believe everything you see and read on the internet." (*And that is not directed to YOU or anything specific, just a damn good rule of thumb)

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« Reply #92 on: November 07, 2007, 09:18:47 am »
Quote (Rockin' Robin @ Nov. 06 2007,23:16)
Hey, better idea!  You and James need to show us photos of your own personal correct funny cars, or current whatever race car, go cart, station wagon ... you name it.

Most of us have got ours.

What?  You mean you haven't seen or heard about my project in the last three years?  What rock have you been hiding under? ':p'

Here it is (although I haven't added any new pictures in about 6 months, largely because not much forward progress has happened in that time):

Mongo's Crusader
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« Reply #93 on: November 07, 2007, 10:24:58 am »
Geez Mongo.... that link is  good for a couple more  pages concerning  overhang.... aaaaaaaaggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

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« Reply #94 on: November 07, 2007, 10:49:26 am »
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« Reply #95 on: November 07, 2007, 10:50:45 am »
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Funny cars?  Funny cars existed before NHRA would recognize them.  NHRA didn't want them.  In the Dallas-Fort Worth area we had Green Valley, AHRA, and funny cars too.


RR,

Not tryin' to interupt your "discussion" w/ JM or anything, but do you know of any written history on Texas tracks and/or drivers from back in the day? Perhaps a book or maybe a website?

So much drag history here in Texas, and as a transplant, I sure would like to learn more...

Thanks, and sorry for interuptin'.

You two can let the dogs loose again!   ':p'  ':p'  ':p'

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« Reply #96 on: November 07, 2007, 10:57:56 am »
':cool:'  
http://www.southwestdrags.com/nostalgia.htm
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« Reply #97 on: November 07, 2007, 11:11:05 am »
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http://www.southwestdrags.com/nostalgia.htm

Thank you, Sir! A good start indeed.

KNow of any GV links or history, besides this S & V site?

http://www.aafueler.com/gvr.htm

Thank you, Sir! A good start indeed.

Know of any GV links or history, besides this S & V site?

http://www.aafueler.com/gvr.htm

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« Reply #98 on: November 07, 2007, 11:58:36 am »
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Geez Mongo.... that link is  good for a couple more  pages concerning  overhang.... aaaaaaaaggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Oh crap...there aren't any pictures of my gut in there...are there?! ':p'

That's a Sarte chassis, built in December '77.
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« Reply #99 on: November 07, 2007, 12:19:33 pm »
This thread is for sure to hit 150 posts and in the end now I'm sure I'll be the "a$$hole" for not going along with Mr. Ming from the get-go that the car is a 1968 Funny Car as described.  '<img'> But as a history "buff" I can not and wil not do it!  '<img'>

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« Reply #100 on: November 07, 2007, 12:55:28 pm »
And Mr. Ming should know I fully appreciated and applauded the Red Mustang "Invader" car that ran at Pomona back with Batmobile debuted, for those that may not know, it had "B U I C K " lettering across the windshield in protest. I have color slides of it from starting line I shot somewhere...

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« Reply #101 on: November 07, 2007, 01:07:08 pm »
':p' Well you are right you are a jerk.I never said anything about Larry and The KING Fish.All i said was Larry Arnold drove the King Fish.I guess i should have said after LarryThere.were alot of cars back then and the years and names might get mixed up a little

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« Reply #102 on: November 07, 2007, 01:14:29 pm »
Quote (Mob City Pontiac @ Nov. 07 2007,08:18)
What?  You mean you haven't seen or heard about my project in the last three years?  What rock have you been hiding under? ':p'

Here it is (although I haven't added any new pictures in about 6 months, largely because not much forward progress has happened in that time):

Ha, this rock!


Bob Coker photo from KCIR last month.  Still in T-N-T mode.  Ran a 6.59 a couple of weeks ago in Tulsa.  It was our first full pass.  Blown on alcohol early style hemi, as in VRA A/Fuel.

I really didn't have a beef with you as much as it became ancillary with the others, but if you are going to start throwing darts you want to make them stick.

In reallity it doesn't have as much to do with this thread as it does someone's attitude towards others here.

Once you get to the track, no one cares about this internet stuff, and the trolls apparently go into hiding.

Good luck with the car ... looks great!  What class will you be running it in?  Looks like it would be a good candidate for our Open Fuel class in Tulsa.

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If anyone knows anymore about sites from the Texas/Oklahoma/Lousiana area, I would sure like to know about them as well.  I look, but I don't find much.

Yes, there is a book written by Grady Bryant at http://gradybryant.com/MRM.htm.  It covers mostly early match racing and funny cars from the area.

Maybe someone could start a thread devoted to the early Div 4 area?
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« Reply #103 on: November 07, 2007, 01:16:30 pm »
Mr. Ming, you your self would want your history kept straight I'm sure, if a third party restored an Invader car down the road I'm pretty sure someone would perk up if some details were off on it.

Pardon me for caring about details of these CARS, if that makes me a 'jerk' so be it. I'm done here as all has turned / been interpreted into some sort of personal attack when it was not, it is about the cars themselves.

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« Reply #104 on: November 07, 2007, 01:24:59 pm »
http://www.draglist.com/Pictures/POD%20Feb%202001/POD-020301.htm
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