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Offline MLITTLE

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« on: October 29, 2006, 01:24:13 pm »
Hi,
I need to check out a couple of chassis tags, to ID the builder.

SEMA
Where can I find a list of chassis builder numbers? I called the research department at SEMA, but they didn't know what I was talking about. Also, if the number looks like this 0000x0000. Is the first number or the second number the chassis builder?

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What year did SFI start certifying chassis?
Also, does SFI have a list of builders?

Thanks!
Mike Little

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« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2006, 01:49:50 pm »
25 years ago SEMA, the prerunner to SFI had a list of builders for chassis. Mine was #142 of which I still have the special stamp that they gave you when you passes the certified welding test. Around 1982 or so NHRA decided to do all the certifications themselves and the chassis program was dropped I think.
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« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2006, 01:53:02 pm »
Mike, If you are looking for the builder of your Cavalier, check with Steve Group. I was told he built it.  He is somewhere in Ohio. I'm not sure just where in Ohio but maybe the Rubber City guys can help on that.
I also know that C&P had McKinney do some work on it.

I was told that he built that car from a Mark Williams kit. Churchill and Padilla bought the car from Tim Jenkins. It had a Corvete body, the one I ran for several years, and was called "Fire and Ice".  I believe that Jenkins was the original owner.

I believe that SEMA started certifying chassis in the ealy 70's.





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« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2006, 02:12:44 pm »
Rocky,
Greg believes that he put the C&P body on the Mustang chassis for his son to race.....and that that is the chassis I have.

After reading your timeline, and looking at pictures....it makes more sense that the C&P body is still on the C&P chassis. The chassis I have, has an SFI tag....and as you pointed out, the fire bottles are under the fuel cell. I have always wondered who built the chassis, to me the design and workmanship look very good.

Donnie Reeves is building a 69 Mach 1 for me, and it is pretty far along. He is using a chassis he got from John Denski (I think).
It has a SEMI tag. One of the numbers is 0007. I don't know if that is the builder number of the serial number.

Thanks Rocky, you really know these cars!

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« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2006, 02:27:03 pm »
Rocky, my 85 Brogie chassis has a little, 1-1/2 or so long tag with two little rivets at each end of it on the top tube right in front of the cage front hoop. It has no numbers or anything it's either worn off or got sanded or something. Is this a builder I.D. or '<img'>?  Thanks          Lippy.
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« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2006, 02:34:42 pm »
the first number on the sema list is 11,woody Gilmore,so the number 7 means very little.
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« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2006, 02:40:28 pm »
Mike, If you don't find out for sure, call me at my shop Monday morning. I know a guy that has all the books and can positively ID your chassis. SEMA has the answers, you just have to know who to talk to. My shop # 574 342-7375.    MK

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« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2006, 02:49:34 pm »
Mike, Greg did switch bodies around quite a bit as I believe he also had a Trans Am body and possibly a Camaro body that he mixed and matched with the 2 chassis he had.

If you can post some pics of the chassis I'm pretty sure I can tell if it's the C&P car.
Take a look at the shoulder hoop in the back of the car. Are there a couple of welds in that area?

Churchill and Padilla were, and are, very good friends of mine. Bob was my pit crew for several years [10 or so] starting when he was 14 or 15. He is out in Vegas this weekend helping John Lawson. They grew up together.
C&P's shop was only a few blocks from here. I remember them calling me up one Sunday afternoon and asking me to come by and check something out. They had the car in the driveway and were hosing everything down as Bob had driven over the crankshaft the night before somewhare in Ohio. I had never before seen such carnage up close. It was ugly, to say the least.
Unfortunately, Charlie Padilla lost a battle with luekemia a couple of years ago. He was a great guy. He was the crew chief for Dave Kovar on his TAFC for some years preceding that.

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« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2006, 02:55:50 pm »
Lippy, I believe that would be the tag. I have one on my car also but the numbers on it are worn or sanded off as I had stripped the chassis and couldn't read anything either.
Romeo Palamides front halved my car and at the time he said he thought it might have been built by Lee Austin.

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« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2006, 02:57:28 pm »
Quote (Nasty @ Oct. 29 2006,12:49)
25 years ago SEMA, the prerunner to SFI had a list of builders for chassis. Mine was #142 of which I still have the special stamp that they gave you when you passes the certified welding test.


Nasty, do you happen to remember the  number of the cert and which "society" issued it ?

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« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2006, 03:07:26 pm »
Steve Group and Tim Jenkins are (were?) from Springfield, OH (almost to Dayton on US70). I remember the two of them being pretty close. Last time I saw Tim he was crewing for Steve. Steve also worked for the Safety Safari or whoever IHRA had doing their safety.

I remember the story about P&C throwing the crank on the ground. I was told the 'throwing the crank on the ground' was a literal, not figurative statement.
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« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2006, 03:54:34 pm »
We did that runnin' over the crank thing.It was a iron 426 one of the last races of the year and assembled with cast off parts from 'under the bench'.
the way it came apart the oil pan could be pulled from under the car like a drawer.It was only attached by the oil lines.the sides of the block were gone.The headers were all that held the top in the chassis.in fact whole assembly jumped forward as it was delaminating itself and tipped up ripping the front of the body.
I ended ip with a hole that looked like a burst panel on the hood.there was a small fire but most of the oil was gone every where else...one of the fires that is following the car mostly on the track...
for some reason Al decided to exit through the window rather than the hatch.All 250 lbs  stuffed in a fire suit tore the sid e open following the bulkhead line.
everything was easily repairable but the whole car was torn up by that violent explosion.
Dave Milcarek got a pic just as the motor was rotating out it doesnt look as bad as it was.
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« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2006, 03:55:23 pm »
Yes, It was literal. He actually physically drove over part of the crank and block.
Very, very ugly.

Another Cavalier story. When they first put the Cavalier body on Bob was having "trouble"?? steering the car through the lights. It seems the front wheels were coming off the ground at about 200 MPH.
They talked to Mandoline about it and it turns out that the small part of the rear spoiler that was adjustable was in the highest setting thus causing the front end to lift at speed. They moved the adjustment to the lowest setting and the car handled fine. LOL

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« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2006, 04:04:18 pm »
We haven't had that problem....yet..... I think the adjuster is set on the middle- setting now. Ran 182 last weekend.

I'm heading for the shop, I'll post some chassis pictures if I can get the car out of the trailer tonight.

Thanks!
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« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2006, 04:10:29 pm »
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